Jim Luke, Brian Luke and John Martin Indirectly Accuse John Thomas, Robert Roberts

	The word 'sin' is used in two principal acceptations in the Scriptures. It signifies in the first place, the transgression of law; and in the next, it represents that physical principle of the animal nature, which is the cause of all its diseases, death, and resolution into dust. John Thomas, Elpis Israel, p. 113 "You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free"
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Jim Luke, Brian Luke and John Martin Indirectly Accuse
John Thomas, Robert Roberts, H.P. Mansfield (and John Martin?) et al. of Being "Berean, Old Paths or Unamended"

This document only supplies page images showing that a particular item Jim Luke, Brian Luke and John Martin portray as "Berean, Old Paths, and Unamended" is exactly what John Thomas, H. P. Mansfield and other genuine Christadelphians have always taught. Readers should view another page in this matter as well: "Two Forms of Sin" which is another doctrine they are claiming is "Berean, Old Paths, and Unamended"

From the Clean-Flesh Video Presentation

John Thomas: Baptism, Covering and Atonement

Eureka, vol 2, p. 349

Herald of the Kingdom and Age to Come, September 1861, p. 201

Eureka, volume 2, p. 97

Herald of the Kingdom and Age to Come, May 1859, p. 104

John Martin: Atonement, Covering, Cleansing

John Martin Before...

John Martin After...

John Martin, Hebrews Study Notes, 1st Edition, p. 71 John Martin, Hebrews Study Notes, 1st Edition, p. 90 John Martin, Hebrews Study Notes (1st edition), p. 60 John Martin, Sacrifice and Offering, p. 34 Two defilements? So is it one or two sacrifices that was required? "Christ DID THE SAME IN THE ONE REPRESENTATIVE OFFERING" John Martin, Hebrews Study Notes, 1st Edition, p. 36

All quotes from Saved By His Life, p. 25 (Note that John Martin argues in Saved by His Life that we are cleansed morally from our sins by Christ's sacrifice and that Christ "through his perfect obedience" was "cleansed physically from his mortal nature". So on what basis are we physically cleansed? There's not much utility to be had in having your sins forgiven and being left to die. On what basis then are we physically cleansed? Christ's sacrifice or Christ's obedience? Which is it? According to the other side of this chart, atonement or covering, including removal of "physical defilement" was through "the Sacrifice of Christ" — see quote from page 34 in which this is plainly stated. John Martin are you willing to admit that your current claims, regarding physical atonement, by your own assertion, means you taught "Andrewism" when you published your Hebrews Study Notes? Therefore you are either a reformed "Andrewite" or a clean-flesh advocate. Which is it? You've changed and you have two choices though we must be excused in forming our own conclusions based on your own teachings.)

H.P. Mansfield & Logos: Baptism, Covering and Atonement

Logos, October 1973, p. 23

Logos, August 1988, p. 341

Logos, 1979, page 90

Logos, December 1986, p. 85

Logos, December 1959, p. 152

Logos, January 1979, p. 109

Original Leviticus Expositor
Page 45	Page 87	Page 149

Logos, December 1970, p. 106

H.P. Mansfield, Logos, May 1977, p. 245

Logos, March 1965, p. 237

Logos Editorial, 1976 p. 309

Logos, April, 1983, page 203

Logos, June 1972, page 334

12 Point Summary Kept In Publication by H.P.M.

This is not an exhaustive search but rather
intended to help interested readers in identifying those
who have abandoned Central Christadelphian teaching in Australia:
Jim Luke, Brian Luke and John Martin are the leadership of the present
departure from the Biblical Truth held by Christadelphians since 1848.